Wha-HUH?

Could someone please explain the end of LOST to me? Or all of LOST? Because last night's episode was WEIRD. If it's Jack they want, why do they have Kate and Sawyer? That's only one of MANY questions I have.

Grey's is a rerun tonight, but I'll probably still watch.

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I caved and joined Nano. Good heavens. Alex isn't coming as slowly as it looks - I'm writing on the Alphasmart and not uploading.

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Marianne Arkins said...

Hey Mary.... good luck with NaNo! Look me up over there. My user ID is: MarianneArkins (terribly original).

And, sorry... can't help you with Lost. Don't watch it (I tried when it started, but I was bored. Yeah. Bored. Go figure.)

Tori Lennox said...

So, there's a prison island. And the Others have a submarine! And Juliet is a fertility doctor. Seems weird they wouldn't have any other kind of doctor.

Natalie Damschroder said...

What's your username at NaNo, Mary?

In the first ep this season, it was very clear the Others weren't expecting the plane crash. So they found out what Jack is afterward. We still don't know why they want ANY of the three, though it has been implied that they took Jack because he's a spinal surgeon.

I don't think Juliette's being a fertility doctor has much to do with anything. Not in the sense that "oh, we need a doctor in our community, let's take Juliette."

I'm getting the impression that this community is kind of like the community in The Village--a group of people who wanted to be removed from humanity for some reason.

I think they're setting us up for some answers in the next two episodes before they go on haitus.

How about Desmond being able to see the future? I'm loving that! LOL

Shesawriter said...

I'll tell you what's up. I think the writers are all on crack!

I'm really beginning to hate that show. It makes no sense and leaves the impression they haven't a clue where they're going. Here we are, what, three years into the story? I can't remember. Anyway, we still don't know why they're Lost, where they are, what their connection is to each other and who the hell those stupid Others are. All we can do is speculate.

Instead of answering questions each week, the writers throw out even more. Meanwhile all the loose ends from the first season are still untied. I'm still waiting to find out about the Polar Bear, and the black monster, and all the hallucinations. Why was the boy standing in the jungle with water running out of his mouth? What's the deal with the flashbacks? What do they have to do with anything except characterization? Is there some interconnectivity involved?

ARGH!

I'm seriously at the point of not watching anymore because again, I suspect the writers have written themselves into a hole and can't figure a way out of it.

Sorry, if I sound angry, but last night was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back. I've had it.

Shesawriter said...

Oh, and what's up with that stupid button??? They still haven't adequately explained it. As you can see, I could go on and on, but I'm PMSing right now, and thinking about Lost isn't helping matters. ;-)

MaryF said...

I'm MaryF13 on Nano! Good luck, Marianne and Natalie!

How did the polar bears get to the other island? And how did Ethan and the other guy get to the plane crash so fast? And WHY? I missed the submarine altogether.

Interesting theory about the Others being like The Village, Natalie! We better get some answers though!

And I'm loving the Desmond storyline. Otherwise, the beach scenes would be deadly dull.

Tanya, LOL - they hit a nerve with you, didn't they? Mary Beth and I were talking about the whole Sun thing - I mean, seriously, do the writers NOT remember Sun in season one? The cowed girl trying to run away from her husband? Where did SHE go? And remember the crashing trees? Where's that??

And yeah, enough with the flashbacks. Last night's didn't do much for me, even if it was Sawyer.

mary beth said...

Can't help you but that was it for me. No more Lost. It makes me too angry. How could they take that awesome show and totally destroy it like this?!?

Sarah Catherine said...

Really?? I still love LOST. I think it's BRILLIANT writing - tension in every scene.
Love Desmond seeing the future - I love all the visions of ghosts and black mist monsters, love all the mystery of the hatch and the Dharma group.

Okay, it has a few quirks...like TELL US already, and I was rather confused at the whole Sawyer thing last night. We're really supposed to think Ben is a nice guy now or something?? And why are Kate and Jack so docile - why aren't they fighting at every turn??

LOVE the submarine and Village ideas.

Shesawriter said...

Yeah, they hit a nerve. And you know what else? They're never going to tell us what the hell is going on. They'll just keep stringing us along because they don't know where they're going.

"Gee let's make a show about people stranded on a deserted island and throw in everything including the kitchen sink. We don't have to know why they're there yet. Or who's pulling the strings. We'll just make an appealing concept. We can figure stuff out along the way."

Rolling eyes.

Once it's revealed that they truly DON'T know what they're doing, we'll all turn the channel out of disgust.

This reminds me of the Ally McB finale. I watched that show faithfully during the whole run, and what did they do? Flushed a fabulous series down the john with a godawful series finale. My nine year old son could've written a better ending. It's the same with Lost. They started with such promise, now it looks like the writers are all dropping acid.

Tori Lennox said...

I'm still totally loving LOST. And the writers/producers have said at least some of the questions will be answered before the show goes on hiatus in three weeks (or is it two now?).

As for the submarine, I'm surprised I managed to catch that bit, but when they brought Colleen back after Sun shot her, Ben told Juliet "the sub's back" and then went quickly on with just that bare mention.

Trish Milburn said...

I missed the sub thing too. I'm still loving LOST too. I know it gets frustrating, wanting some answers, but I can't help being fascinated.

Natalie Damschroder said...

I'm loving it, too, and I'd bet my TiVo they know EXACTLY what they're doing. How do I know that? They repeat it ad nauseum in every interview they do and on every podcast they record.

The polar bears were brought to the island by the Hanso Foundation for experimentation.

RE: the button--the island has an electromagnetic anomaly that was apparently part of the scientific studies being done on the island. They f**ked with it and did something very dangerous, which led to buildup of electromagnetism, as evidenced by Eko's cross being pulled toward the center of the hatch, and Charlie's belt flying toward it, and metal stuff flying across the room when the button was NOT pushed to discharge the buildup safely.

Every good show sets up questions and dribbles out answers to keep people tuning in. I can understand why some people wouldn't have tolerance for the increased level of mystery and tension on Lost, though I'm not one of them. I'm the opposite. I have very little patience for the kinds of shows that wrap up everything very neatly each week and never show growth or development. :)

Shesawriter said...

I think I'm patient. I had to be to watch Alias religiously. Before that last season they were pretty good about amping up the mystery and keeping the tension high. I never got frustrated with Alias because although they tossed a lot of curve balls, and kept me guessing from week to week, they balanced it with answering questions and tying up loose ends from episodes that had aired weeks, sometimes months ago. The character development was also on spot. I LOVED Jack, Syd's father. :-)

With Lost it just seems like a ball of confusion. If they know what they're doing, great, but I still have my doubts. Unfortunately, the show will stay on in my house since my husband and three kids are absolutely, positively addicted.

Yep, I'm the odd girl out. :-)

MaryF said...

I figured Hanso got the polar bears to the island, but why are they on the castaways' island instead of the island where the cages are?

Sarah, exactly about being confused about the Sawyer thing. Even the backstory didn't give us anything to go on (does he REALLY have a kid, or is he being conned?)

Tanya, I don't remember the Ally McBeal finale. I quit watching when Robert Downey Jr left. But I was telling Trish Lost is no longer my must see show. Used to be you couldn't miss an episode or you'd miss something important.

Natalie, I agree with you about shows that wrap everything up too neatly. Most of my shows have the arc. But give us SOMETHING!

When they took the arcs out of Alias, I was irritated. They had too many self contained episodes toward the end. I don't even remember the last season much. But the first couple of seasons - WOW.

Shesawriter said...

Mary,

Three things contributed to Alias's downfall. The first, you already mentioned. The arcs. They disappeared. The second was convoluted storytelling. This started around the second to the last year of the series. All the twists and turns began to get ridiculous. It was an insult to the intelligence.

The third was all that hiatus crap. They'd disappear for weeks at a time and then expect us to be panting for their return. Well, I lost interest. With a show like that, one built on pure tension, you can't take your audience for granted.

MaryF said...

Tanya, I watched the first 5 seasons on disc, I think, so the hiatuses wouldn't bother me. But yeah right on the convoluted storytelling! I remember there was a t-shirt at the end of the second to last season that said, "I suffered through this season of Alias and all I got was this stupid not-Vaughn t-shirt!"

Natalie Damschroder said...

Ah, Mary, I get your question now. When there's a simple question with no answer, my brain will work and work and work on it to come up with something plausible...so I'm thinking once the bears were no longer needed, they put them on the main island 'cause there's more game available?

Alias is an excellent example of the network screwing up a great show. They forced the producers to make it more episodic so it would play better in syndication. It's also the network that sets the broadcast schedule, though no show ever goes an entire 35-week season without repeats. They only make 22-24 episodes, and the more elaborate and feature-quality a show is, the longer it takes to create an episode. So they start filming in July, catch up to themselves, and have to intersperse the show with repeats. Or they start in January, like they did with Alias season 5 and 24.

Unfortunately, I think the network will ruin Lost, too. I think part of the reason they're stretching out the questions is because the producers would like to do a 4- or 5-season arc and plan and end the show on their own terms, but the network won't allow that. If they're still getting top-10 ratings in season 4 or 5, they're going to make them continue. So then the producers face either compromising their vision to accommodate the network, or giving it up entirely because the network will just hire other people to make the show. So far, they're just trying to keep it going without answering too much too quickly.

MaryF said...

I see the point about the polar bears, Natalie. Seems like a lot of work, though ;)

I remember hearing that about Alias, about the syndication thing. What do they think will happen with The Nine or Heroes or 24, which is already in syndication? Seriously, are they thinking local networks are too dumb to show things in order? Heck, even Friends is shown in order.

Is Lost even still in the top ten?

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